Noah’s Flood – Giants

NOAH’S FLOOD

ANCIENT WORLD OF GIANTS

Table of Contents

• Overview
• Biblical References
• Scientific & Archaeological Evidence     
• Historical References – Legends     
• Paleontology     
• Giants Tools and Structures     
• Giant Animals  
• Ancient Legends  
• Giants Today
• References

OVERVIEW

Paleontology, archaeological and historical evidence points to a time when living organism in the world grew much larger than we observe today.

Human, plants and animal all have fossilized remains revealing evidence that many different species in ancient times grew up to 100% or larger than they do today.

Theories of Development

 Evolutionary Perspective

Evolutionists have a very difficult time placing these giant creatures because they are not consistent with their beliefs of how organisms gradually formed from old to new species in comparison to the arrangement of these giants in the geologic columns.

i.e. For example how could the giant sloth be found in geologic strata before (lower) then smaller sloths if mammal where supposed to have evolved first from small reptile-mammal like creatures?

Evidence shows that larger, giant, animals lived first, consistent with Biblical accounts; a time in which all creatures, including humans, grew to a substantial size.

Why did everything grow larger in the ancient world? That answer can be found when we examine:

Þ    the Pre-Flood World Conditions

Creationist Perspective

All evidence needs to be thoroughly examined in order to determine what exactly happened in the past:

Where all people – giants or just larger then we know today?

Where giants a different race of beings altogether?

Historic References to Giants

 BIBLICAL REFERENCES

The Bible refers to giants throughout multiple regions of the world and in different time eras. Not much is known about the giants referred to in the Bible as they are vaguely described without much detail. They are alluded to in each account as large fierce beings that possess unique attributes. In each account they seemed to be very highly skilled and nearly-unbeatable warriors.

Each times giants are mentioned in the Bible, they appear to be so ferocious that no one want to cross them.

In the Days of Noah – Giants the Offspring of Angels

4000 years ago +/- 500 years, all throughout the world.

There are a few schools of thought on this verse, but this is where the belief comes from that giants where the products or offspring of angels (sons of God) and human women (daughters of men). Here, we are not going to argue either point of view.

The Nephilim

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. – Gen 6:4 

In the Days of Moses – Giants lived in the land of Canaan

3500 years ago +/1 200 years, In the Land of Canaan (modern day Israel – Iraq).

The sons of Anak where Giants

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. – Num_13:33 

The Anakim, The Emim

Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims. – Deu_2:11 

The Zuzim (Zamzummim)

(That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims; – Deu_2:20 

The Rephaim

King of Og was a Giant – Land of Giants

For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man. – Deu_3:11 

And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants. – Deu_3:13 

And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei, – Jos_12:4 

And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward: – Jos_15:8 

And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel, – Joshua 18.16

In the Days of King David –

3000 years ago +/- 100 years, in/ around the Arab peninsula.

Giants of Philistines

And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David. – 2Sa_21:16 

And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant. – 2Sa_21:18 

Giants of Gath (in Philistia)

And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. – 2Sa_21:20 

These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants. – 2Sa_21:22 

And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued. – 1Ch_20:4 

And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant. – 1Ch_20:6 

These were born unto the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants. – 1Ch_20:8 

SCIENTIFIC & ARCHAEOLOGY EVIDENCE

Paleontology- ‘Human’ Giants

There have been multiple cases of giants remains found and recorded throughout the world.

Giants Skeletal Remains

1. A skeleton nine feet eight inches (2.95m) tall was recovered from a stone burial mound at Brewersville, Indiana in 1879.
2. Buried beneath heavy layers of shell some 30 miles below the city (Shreveport?, LA), Mr. J. M. Clay found unmistakable evidence of a prehistoric race.  Huge bones similar in every respect to a man’s were found imbedded in thick layers of clam shells.  As many as a score (20) of skeletons were found intact.
   Every skeleton was fully nine feet (2.75 M) high.”
3. A skeleton nearly ten feet (3+ M) long was found in the Humbolt Lake (NV) bed in June, 1931.
4. At Walkerton, 20 miles southwest of South Bend [IN], a group of amateur archeologists opened a mound in 1925 and unearthed the skeletons of eight giants ranging from eight to nine feet (2.5- 2.75 M) long.  All were wearing heavy copper armor.

Race of Giants Unearthed

A race of Giants and skeletons of mammoth unearthed in the County. Found in Big Mound Near the outlet of Lake Noquebay, in NE Wisconsin, mounds were found containing hundreds of skeletons.

“One skull found was about three times the size of the ordinary human and other bones were correspondingly big.”
– The Index Wausaukee, Wisconsin Friday October 14, 1904 Vol 11. No.9 (Mounds are a few feet under water now in the lake in front of Ahle’s Resort 1-715-854-2171) 60 mile N of Green Bay, WS

Giants Finger Phalanges

Giants Thigh Bone

Thigh bone replica from a giant skeleton found in SE Turkey.  – Joe Taylor makes castings. P.O. 559, Crosbyton, TX 79322

Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum- 47 in Human Femur

Giants Jaw Bones Discovered

Non-Petrified human jaw bones discovered in eastern Turkey, near Dogubeyazit. Jaw bones are over 6 inches in length.
 

Giant Human Vertebrae Column

Dr. Cabrera holding human vertebrae (5th lumbar) found in “cretaceous sediment” in Ocucaja Desert, Ica, Peru.

Giant Skeletal Remains 8-9 Feet Tall

A skeleton nine feet eight inches (2.95m) tall was recovered from a stone burial mound at Brewersville, Indiana in 1879.
 – Indianapolis News, November 10, 1975, quoted in Reader’s Digest’s Mysteries of the Unexplained
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Mummified Incan King- 9 1/2 ft Tall

The mummified head of an Inca King 9 1/2 feet tall. Arrows outline person for scale.

 – Ancient America, PO Box 370 Colfax, WS 54730, Issue #34, p. 37; Giants of the Royal Incas by Glenn Kimball.

Giant Footprint

Here is a picture of the giant footprint with Michael Tellinger. In eastern Transvaal, Africa, in 1912 a hunter by the name of Stoffel Coetzee found this granite imprint in a solid piece of granite. It is in a very remote locations, and supposedly remains in its original condition.

Geologists that have studied the site claims it appears to be authentic, and is in its current ordination due to the tectonic plates shifting upward over  thousands of years of movement.

It is imprinted in phenocrystic granite and is one of the best preserved fossil footprints still in its original location in the world.

In the official Geology Of South Africa, this outcrop is called Mpuluzi Batholith (Granite) and the official dating of this rock produced dates of around 3,1 billion years, according to conventional uniformitarian dating methods.

GIANT’S WEAPONS, STRUCTURES & LEGENDS

Guam‘s Latte Stones

Legends from Guam tell of giant ancestors that built the “Latte” stones found there.

 – Ancient Infrastructure, Remarkable Roads, Mines, Walls, Mounds, Stone

Circles By William Corliss, 1999, p. 293

Stone Hand Axes Found in Africa

Found in Lake Makgadikgadi in the Kalahari Desert, giant dry-lake basin, dating to 10,000-150,000 years ago. Some of the largest hand axes ever recorded, 4 giant sized hand axes recovered. Professor David Thomas from Oxford University head of Geography says many of the tool where found on the dry floor of the lake.

Giant Copper Head Axe – 39 Pounds

Found in Ohio, an important archaeological dig undertaken by the University of Southampton, has produced over twenty flint hand axes, including two of exceptional size and quality, which may lead to a reassessment of the level of human development in the Early Stone Age.

Other Giant Tools Found

A 64 pound sledge hammer found in a 3500 year old copper mine near the town of Llandudno in North Wales.

Giant axes have been unearthed in Iran, giant swords in other countries.

There are many Native American legends of Giants, Arizona giants, California giants, Ohio giants, and other locations such as the Peruvian giants.
 

Giant Animals – Mega fauna

Giant Penguins – 4 1/2 feet tall

Giant Penguins Once Roamed Atacama Desert in Peru, fossils show that species labels Icadyptes salasi where are large as people, averaging 4 1/2 feet tall.

(National Geographic News, Thursday Oct 28, 2010)

Giant Rhinoceros – 17 feet long

 The giant Rhino also known as Paraceratherium or Elasotherium (thin plate beast), is found in the pliocene sediment layers.

Fossilized remains reveal this creature to have measured 8 ft tall, and as long as 17 feet.

Many other giant rhino remains have been found to be even larger.

Giant Turtles – 16 feet wide

Archelon ischyros is the largest sea turtle discovered. some of the largest measured 13 feet long and 16 feet wide.

The fossils are discovered in South Dakota and Wyoming

 – Yale Museum, New Haven, Connecticut

Giant Beaver – 8 feet long

Also Known as Castoroides, it is roughly the size of modern black bears and are found in excavations around North America. Beaver skulls where found to estimate some of them grew as large as 6 feet long. Jaws of other giant beavers where discovered along with other fossilized remains to show some where 7-8 feet long.

Found by Jim Erb 920-699-2516 in Johnson Creek, Wisconsin. I met him 10-9-98.

Giant Sloth – 17 feet long

Also known as Megalonychidae, remains have been found to reach up to 17 feet long.

– Megalonyx jeffersonii, Iowa Museum of Natural History, University of Iowa.

Giant Buffalo

Fossil Buffalo horns have been found with a 12 foot span!

Picture shows an 8 foot horn core is in from Joe Taylor Museum. – Www.mtblanco.com

 Giant Marsupials

Many different species of giant marsupials have been found. They have been unearthed in remote caves in the Australian outback.

– By Barbie Dutter in Sydney  (Filed: 31/07/2002) & National Geographic News, Bijal Trivedi July 31, 2002; of the find where found Tasmanian tigers, marsupial lions, and many other mega fauna.

Giant Wombats

Giant wombats known as Diprotodon, have been found the size of a Mini car, growing up to 6.6 feet tall and 10 feet long. These marsupials remains have been found all across Australia.

Giant Kangaroos

Giant kangaroos, also known as Procoptodon goliah where found to be as large as 10ft-tall.

Giant Rodents

Some Giant Rodents have been found, and labeled the Dino-Rat, also known as the Josephoartigasia.

These giant rodent remains where found in south Africa. it had a head 2 feet long and may have weight over 2000 lbs or as much as a bull. – information from MSNBC NEWS

Giant Birds

Giant Ostrich

Giant ostriches, also known as the Dinornis maximus, remains have been found that point to this creature reaching a height of 13 feet(4m).

– Strange Stories, Amazing Facts p. 246, Readers Digest 1978

Giant Goose

Also known as Dasornis, this bird was found to be about 15 feet long, weighing half a ton, and has been estimated to have live 50 million years ago.

Many similar species did not dying off until roughly 35,000 years ago in Australia, known as the dromornithids (running birds).

 – Found in Australia by David Fickling in Sydney, Friday August 16, 2002 The Guardian

Giant Parrot

Also known as the Mopsitta, the giant salamander is estimated to have lived over 55 million-year ago. The remains were found in Scandinavia, thousands of miles from the tropics, showing this region was indeed at one time a tropical location, before these birds began to migrate to more southern regions.

Giant SALAMANDERS – Up to 15 FEET LONG

Also known as the Kryostega, the remains of these salamanders have been found to reach up to 15 feet long. It is estimated to have lived over 240 million years ago in the antarctic region where the remains have been found.

Giant Oysters – 12  feet wide

Documentation all over the world but especially on the tops of Mt. Everest reveal giant oysters, many estimated up to over 11 feet wide.

  – Express Times 3-2-01 p. A-2,  1 800 360 3601 Eastern PA.  

– Daily American Republic Friday, March 2, 2001 Poplar Bluff, Missouri

Giant Insects

Giant Dragonflies

Giant dragonfly fossils have been discovered, A dragonfly with a 50 inches (1.27M)  inch wingspan was found in Italy.  – Www.creationevidence.org

Giant Cockroaches

Fossils of giant coach roaches and grasshoppers the size of housecats have been found, up to 18 inches (45cm) to 2 feet long.

Giant Centipede

A fossil centipede 8.5 feet (2.6m) long was been found.

Giant Tarantula

 – Fossil of giant tarantula Highlights for Children p. 9, May 2001

How Could Insects Grow so Large?

An insects growth is completely determined by the conditions of its ecosystem. Insects today bugs are limited in size by the amount of Oxygen and the air pressure.

  – Highlights for Children p. 8, May 2001

Insects breath through spiracles in their skin not nostrils.

 – Holt Biology 2004, p, 668

As an object gets larger it has less surface area (skin) compared to its volume.  This is why large insects would not be able to breathe in today’s atmosphere. Experiments have shown insects can get very large by changing their environment and given the correct conditions.

Experiments and Research on Bugs

Research on bugs growing in oxygen rich waters grow up to 1000 times heavier than those living off the shores of Europe!

These insects near the poles grow to become super sized because they breath more oxygen.

Experiments on Insects with increased oxygen levels and in higher atmospheric conditions also lead to great size of the insects. These experiments reflect the early conditions of the earth.

Other Officially Documented Giant Animals:

Giant Camel – 15 feet

 Giant Crocodiles also known as Rhamphosuchus, Sarcosuchus, Deinosuchus – – 60 feet long

 Giant Ape  also known as Gigantopithecus – 10 feet tall

 Giant Donkey – 9 feet tall (was excavated near Lubbock, Texas that was 9 feet (2.75 m) high at the shoulder)

 Giant Elk Also known as the Megaloceros, was a Giant Elk with 12 foot (3.7M) antlers.

 Giant lions known as Thylacoleo carnifex

 Giant Shark  also known as Megalodon – 80 Feet Long

Giant Plants

 Fossil cattails 60 feet long (18.3m) have been found in sedimentary rock.

Giant Humans Today

Even with all the documented evidence, many people will still deny the existence of giants in history. However, even in today’s society we still see many abnormally large humans. Some people have been known to have a genetic deficiencies that cause growth problems, but in many other cases, some people are simply born genetically with a naturally large disposition. This does not justify many of the extremely large sizes we find either in history or paleontology, yet it does show that even in today’s time, a slight glimpse of what some of these very large human beings may have looked like.

Robert Wadlow  with his father (R) and brother (L).

Born Feb 22- July 1940, grew to be 8 ft 11 in tall and weighted 439 lbs.

His growth was due to hypertrophy of his pituitary gland resulting in a high level of human growth hormone.

Leonid Stadnyk

Current height is 8’5″, born in 1971.

Giants

National geographic photo from 1920’s

Other Recorded ‘Giants’ People

 Even though different theories postulate that some giants may have been an alternative race (from angelic beings, etc.). Evidence reveals that humanity was at one point in time much larger in stature then we know today.

Where All Ancient Creatures – Giant Size?

If everything found deep within the geologic columns of the earth supposedly came from the same 2000 year time span, when the conditions on the earth allowed God’s creatures to grow much larger, they why aren’t all fossils found ‘super sized?’

The earth only existed for approximately 2000 years before the ecologic conditions of the earth where dramatically altered. We have recorded in the Bible two times that the earth faced massive ecologic changes, also confirmed in all fields of science. [ 1.) Gen 6 – Noah’s global flood, 2.) Gen 10.25- The Earth was divided]

Noah’s global flood destroyed the Earth and changed the conditions so creatures could no longer grow as large as they did before the flood occurred. It is well theorized that creatures and humans all had much longer life spans with the perfect tropical and physical conditions throughout the Earth, this is why dinosaurs could grow so large.

The earliest generations of creatures are really the only ones that would have had the time to grow to enormous size before the destruction of the world by the flood. The offspring of these ancient giants would have increase and multiplied their numbers up to about 500 years before the flood. This gives us roughly 1500+ year that creatures could have been born and live long enough to grow to these tremendous statures. Their offspring would have had a major population growth resulting in a even larger number of creatures that where only alive long enough to experience a medium growth increment right before they were destroyed [their remains we find evidence of throughout all the geologic columns].

Reconstructing the anatomy of many of these ancient creatures, especially many of the dinosaurs, reveals that without a different, more oxygen enriched environment they would not have even been able to breathe.

Þ    see Dinosaurs, couldn’t exist in post-flood conditions

The Bible gives us a second explanation for the existence of giants, they were primarily the offspring of fallen angels and humans. Human probably did grow much larger than they do today as we see different features in some of these ancient human fossils then we experience today:

Þ    see Neanderthals, just old humans

Humans would have also been the last to die in the flood and most of their remains destroyed in the torrential flood waters, unlike the unwitting animals that were swept into the different layers of sediment, and mud-flow.

Today, we still have some evidence that humans where at one time larger then we are now, Wisdom Teeth. We know today that wisdom teeth are evidence that the human jaw was at one time larger and able to hold more teeth.

References

Nation Geographic – Giant Penguins

National Geographic Australia – Giant Kangaroo

Giant Skeletal Remains – Indianapolis News, November 10, 1975, quoted in Reader’s Digest’s Mysteries of the Unexplained
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The Daily Town Talk Dec. 9, 1902, The Coushatta Citizen, Thursday Dec. 12, 2002 p. 4A NW Louisiana

Lovelock Review-Miner’s June 19, 1931

Earth Archives – Largest Land Mammal to have Ever Lived